53 days until you will lose all your privacy

Posted on:November 09 2007

The law to store email, telephone, and all internet connection data of all german people has been accepted today by about 70% of all representatives. Ignoring all the protests and all the expert opinions. The law will take effect in 53 days.
Good bye privacy. Hello Stasi 2.0. Here is a complete list of all those people who made this possible.
More information about this on vorratsdatenspeicherung.de.





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its a pain in the ass
Halan
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2007-11-09 16:38:00


Heard it on my radio when waking up - not a good start into a day.
I guess most people really don't care about freedom and probably think this is even a good thing. Helps to hunt down Tttterrororororists, Child pornographers and maybe all the other bad people in this world (like that strange guy in the neighbour house who never greets!).

It's really interesting how such an highly unpopular law could pass. The excuses on TV where like "this is EU law and we *have* to pass it" (zypris, minister of brainwashing). And on other days the same politicans do wonder why the EU system ain't more popular.

Unfortunately such laws never get taken back once they are passed. Laws always seem to get stricter. And no need for guessing - some politicans like Schäuble (extrem paranoid minister) will already plan the next step.

Problem is that we can't fight this as long as the majority of people in germany do vote those parties. I think this is largely an awareness problem (at least I hope so). People are made so afraid of everything, that they think the only good life is a safe life. No matter the costs. And don't even think about the problem that more safety always means that more and more people land on the "wrong site" and they might be one of them soon.

But I also blame the press somewhat. They only started to make a stink on that law when it was nearly passed. I usually try to follow that stuff, but I completely missed that this law will be passed until a few days ago. And then the demonstrations where already over and I doubt there will be new ones.

Maybe a community page in the web for demonstrations would be nice (or does that already exist?).
CuteAlien
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2007-11-09 17:01:00


Another thought about this. As here are some game programmers - we might actually be in a position where we can help people to get back a little bit privacy. That law works by logging information about the lowest protocols, the ip-numbers. So if we create online games once the state knows the ip of any participan of such a game he can find out who he is. But security can be created on higher protocols. Every game has chats anyway already. And game programmers can make the conversations between the players as secure as theire programming abilities do allow it. So we can create lots of environments in which the state will not get any information beside "some guys played a game" while offering secure communication.

Does anyone know a good (and free as in zlib-license) library which would help implementing more secure chat/message systems?
CuteAlien
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2007-11-09 17:27:00


Writing about privacy but posting the list doesn't make much sense for me. On the other hand, they literally asked for it.

I bagged and sent my constitutional complaint several days ago and I am looking forward to the Federal Courts decision.
matt
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2007-11-09 18:45:00


"lose", not "loose".
you know.
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2007-11-09 22:30:00


thx, right.
niko
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2007-11-09 23:41:00


this is awful :(
at the moment I am not very proud to be a german :/

every intelligent person on this planet knows, that this is the wrong step ...

maybe they are using the data for hunting "the bad people" ...
but sooner or later they will use them to find the ordinary people who made mistakes ... like people who used p2p-networks or such things ...

I think the next step will be that they are punishing people who use crypto-stuff ... like they are doing in great britain ...

i know people who got in trouble because they had tor-servers ...
next time i am using pgp maybe police is knocking at my door ...

there was a british minister who said: everybody using crypto is a terrorist ...

i hope this is not the beginning of the end ...

greets jens
jens
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2007-11-10 13:46:00


time to move back to messenger pigeons ...
(until they develop anti pigeon sam sites)
kral
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2007-11-10 17:05:00


http://freenetproject.org/index.php?page=philosophy
... You cannot have freedom of speech without the option to remain anonymous ...
stef_
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2007-11-12 17:38:00


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