2007: 1984

Posted on:December 07 2007

Welcome to DDR 2.0: The Austrian parliarment just passed a new law without any warning or discussion, it wasn't even possible to preview it. The new law de facto allows the police to locate the position of any citizen using his cell phone id without the need of asking a judge. Police is also allowed to request identity of the IP of any internet user - again without asking a judge before.
The protest is huge of course, although there is nearly no media coverage. But it is senseless, the law has already been passed. I cannot believe that this is still called a democracy.





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WTF? Really now. That's just not tolerable anymore and how come the SPÖ is even envolved in that methods? Maybe the ÖVP but the frickin SPÖ?
Gauntlet
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2007-12-07 13:20:00


this is crazy ...
we are getting close to a europe where everything is tracked and the disposal of the authorities can become limitless.

next step is the ban of encryption like in britain ...

german and austrian government try to give their best to do the worst things you can imagine ...

ui ... rfid chip implants right after birth ...
tracking from cradle to grave

i hope this is just a bad dream and my alarm clock will ring in a minute ...
jens
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2007-12-07 15:36:00


I have to be honest, and I don't want to offend people when I say this:
Why is Austria of all places doing these things?
I can understand when places like America and (my home) the UK do this, because the politicians are scared of being seen to do nothing about terrorism, because the people in those countries are scared.

Austria, is a small country, and is unlikely to ever be the target of a terrorist act and indeed you don't see Osama Bin Laden on the TV talking about how he wants to see the downfall of the Austrian Government.

I'm not saying I would support these actions if they were taking place in the UK, I'm just saying that the Austrian politicians have no reason other than controlling the populace to implement these laws.
John
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2007-12-07 16:10:00


It is very sad that my country - Malaysian is also currently loses its democratic properties. And lots of protests have been made recently. Sad.
Virion
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2007-12-07 16:20:00


Sick!
I bet that those who decide those laws is just some old pervs
that like to know what everyone is doing, so that they don't need to sit in theire window with bionoculars all day.
if i lived there, i'd move to some other country.
OneMoreInThisWor
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2007-12-07 17:29:00


Ranting doesn't help. Neither does demonstrating. Become a politician and fix it.
Armin Ronacher
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2007-12-07 17:49:00


"without the need of asking a judge"
Strange issue. Just like East European countries in the past.
etcaptor
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2007-12-07 17:53:00


I'm sorry to hear that the austrian government doesn't respect the basic freedoms of the citizens;/ I may sound like a conspiracy-theory-maniac, but if one EU country implements such law , what's the reason for other countries not to do it? It's a pretty dangerous precedence...
Just my 3 cents
GammaRay
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2007-12-07 19:10:00


Oh before I forget: for all conspiracy theory fans (and not only, because IMO a lot of thing in the movie MAKE sense) I recommend watching "Zeitgeist".
GammaRay
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2007-12-07 19:12:00


I recommend "America: Freedom To Fascism"
Helloween
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2007-12-08 01:16:00


i don't like a lot of the things that have been pushed through congress in the USA here much lately either. luckily i havent heard of anything like that cellfone thing here yet, i hope they don't do it here too. i have been reading about iceland though, since my new job has a division there and they still seem to be on the right track. maybe someday i'll wind up there...
but for the moment it hasn't gotten bad enough in the USA yet that I'd want to leave. I hope when we have a new president it will improve, but if it's Hilary Clinton or Rudy Giuliani I don't think it will :-(
buhatkj
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2007-12-08 05:06:00


The problem here is we still think we live in a democracy - this just simply isn't true but its the best trick our governments have played on us that we think we do. Sure, we elect a politician, but his alliegiance is to 'the party' and he will vote with the party on all major issues otherwise he will never make cabinet or take a role in government. We are in essence, all of us in europe and the US, living under a democratically elected dictatorship. Good trick huh.

Worse news to come is the EU... Has anyone ever stopped and thought for a moment that when the Sovient Union (the great enemy) collapsed in the late 80's and 90's, the EU has just got bigger and bigger? - folks, the EU is the new Soviet Union. Take a step back and think about it! More centralised control going to Brussels (Moscow). Police state tactics to keep the masses in order. Hopefully most of you arent brainwashed enough to see this happening but it is happening and its happening fast. The banking/military/industrial cabal that actually run this planet have plans in print for this very takeover of the planet. DONT expect to hear about it on your state controlled media, DONT expect a politician to hear your plight (they dont work for you). Just look at the symptoms, more and more every day and understand that we are living in police state EU, or police state US - take your pick.
Welcome to the new world order brethren, Don't be afraid - big brother will take care of you.
Winston Smith
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2007-12-10 13:32:00


trust the psycorps, the psycorps is your friend

--
someone living in Austria
Terefang
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2007-12-15 22:21:00


Although it has to be said that the EU is still far more decentralised than the USSR, and the day that Britain, France and Germany all agree on a course of action will be a cold day in hell.
Swiftcoder
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2007-12-16 15:41:00


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