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[quote][b]Baal Cadar[/b] wrote: buhatkj, I take it that neither you nor I are clima scientists. But from following the discussion in the media, mainstream and not so mainstream, I learned that it is more or less proven, that the current global warming is man made. "Smoking gun" has not been found, but there are indices in abundance. When studies are done, measurement errors are taken into account. Most nations on the world have aknowledged global warming as a fact. And those who didn't, do it because of their own agenda. China in order to not to slow down their growth. USA because of massive lobby work of the industry. Bush has time and time again muzzled scientists and edited reports. (I don't have a news item on this at hand right now, but I remember having read this multiple times on different mainstream sites, a web search will yield results) And this is what I believe these spots are about. They simply want to lobby US population into not believing things they read about global warming. Coincidently one week before publishing a documentation with Al Gore on this topic. These spots are plain stupid as well. What facts do they provide to proof their point? No the glaciers in Greenland is not growing and no the ice shield in the antarcis is not growing either. This is complete humbug. They got a few lines from some report and put them out of context. Pseudo Science for Marketers 101. They are plain mean. They provide idiotic marketing blabla. They make me want to puke. As if anybody wants to completely shut off all power plants and abolish electricity. No one says that, but in the spot they hint that this were the plan. Plain unfair. The people who did these spots don't believe a single line of it. They just see how much money is on the line for all those upgrades to the factories and plants and all the other cost factors. They are long dead when the effects fully hit us, so why care. So who am I going to believe? A UN scientific board with scientist from all over the world with no common agenda or the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a lobby think tank, whose sole purpose is to manipulate public opinion in the direction the energy industry wants? Hm.. Tough decision.. Also buhatkj, this is first about awareness of the problem. If this is reached one can discuss consequences. And these consequences are not shutting up transportation and industry. This has never been discussed in earnest, the spot seems to work already... Some consequences being discussed are to invest into research of ways to get rid of CO2 and to require filters and other techniques to reduce the amount of CO2.[/quote]
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